Yesterday's Result: £623.86
It's not quite what Andy Warhol had in mind but I reckon it's true - every trader has their 15 minutes of pain. Unfortunately yesterday was my turn and I managed to turn a several hundred pound green book in to a several hundred pound red one. Several hours good trading wiped out in 15 minutes.
I'm realistic enough to know I can't win every time I trade. And I don't normally let losses bother me. Just take them on the chin and move on. Yesterday's really bugged me though so I allowed myself a brief moment of melancholy before heading out to cheer myself up and catch a Stone Roses tribute band - which turned out to be cancelled! :-(
I made the loss on the 2nd ODI between India and Pakistan. Put simply I got caught by an odds swing of seismic proportions that still somewhat baffles me. With around 10 overs to go of the Pakistan run chase I was sat there with a green India, red Pakistan and a smile on my face. Pakistan needed over 9 runs an over, I effectively had an all green book, India were around 1.5 and I knew the price I was going to bail at for an all green book if it looked like Pakistan might do it.
3 balls and 10 runs later and the price was evens. Another 3 balls later and the India price hit 2.66. So in one over the Indian price went from 1.5 to 2.66. And what had happened? The Pakistan required run rate had dropped from just over 9 an over to just over 8.5 an over. I don't know. Maybe I just read it totally wrong but for me that was a massive over reaction on the back of half decent over.
Anyway, whatever the reasons the fact is the market just ran away. Paniced. Stampeded even. Even with my trusty one click trading software I could barely get matched. By the time the 5 seconds were up and the bet had been submitted the market seemed to have drifted another 5 ticks. I finally got everything I wanted matched but by the time calm prevailed and the market settled I was staring at an all red book. I was stunned. It felt like I was in the scene at the end of Trading Places where the Duke Brothers are left standing among the old orders strewn across the trading floor after being ruined by Eddie Murphy and Dan Ackroyd!
Of course the market had over reacted and as it settled it back a little. Pakistan continued to stay up with the rate though so I backed them - still well odds on - in the belief they would win. A wicket immediately fell and India were back to 1.5. At that point I thought sod it, equalled out red and simly left the match. It was only going to get more volatile and as the volatility increased getting involved would become more and more of an outright gamble. It was time to accept the red and quit.
So there you go. 15 minutes or so of pain in which I swapped a healthy green for a sickly red. I was literally caught out by the scale and speed of the price swing. Not really seen anything quite so big at that stage of a match before but you can't argue with the market. Guess I just read the whole thing incorrectly and paid for another lesson. The thing that really got me after was it wasn't as if I was unwilling to level my book out. I intended to and knew when I would. When I reached that point I just couldn't get matched.
Anyway, all behind me now and on a more positive note I have all green books on the two tests going on at the moment - Australia v Sri Lanka and South Africa v New Zealand. Small in the first and moderate in the second although with those two - and the ODI - running at the same time even my new bankroll wasn't sufficient to enable me to take the size of positions I wanted on the South Africa test. Bit of a shame as my initial lay of the draw in that was a more profitable position to have taken than my original one in the Austalian match. I mentioned this might happen and I may have to increase that operating bankroll. Might be that I'll end up doing it sooner than I thought.
4 comments:
Bad luck yesterday, I have been in a similar situation myself many times like you describe, I am sure though after following your blog for many months you will make this loss back in no time ;-)
I now try and do all my trading on ODI's before the last 10 overs and leave an even green. I find having large red even on a seemingly obvious outcome is just too dangerous these days. The volatility of the market becomes impossible to manage when the impossible suddenly becomes possible.
20/20 seems to have changed 50/50 cricket to an extent now that people believe that 8/9/10 an over for the last 15 is gettable and the markets now reflect this.
Anyway your blog has been an inspiration to me, I have recently gone full-time myself following a 6 month trial using a similar money management strategy as yourself.
Wishing you continued good fortune.
Art Vandelay
Thanks for the comments on my blog (http://dontgiveupyourjob.blogspot.com/) BFT.
Sorry to see you had a loss yesterday - hope you get it all back soon!
Hi BFT,
Me again (johnterry26), with yet again more questions I hope you wouldn’t mind answering. I’ll get straight into them :-)
'Pakistan needed over 9 runs an over, I effectively had an all green book, India were around 1.5 and I knew the price I was going to bail at for an all green book if it looked like Pakistan might do it.'
Regarding the quote above from your blog update, if you knew what price you would bail if things went against you would it not have been wise to put this bet up in the market ready to be matched? Obviously there is a risk attached to leaving bets up unmatched but I imagine the price this bet would have been left up wouldn’t have been too close to the current market price. What do you think of this and with hindsight is this a method you would use?
You then go on to say that '3 balls and 10 runs later and the price was evens. Another 3 balls later and the India price hit 2.66. So in one over the Indian price went from 1.5 to 2.66. And what had happened? The Pakistan required run rate had dropped from just over 9 an over to just over 8.5 an over'
As the market had massively changed its opinion on the likely winner in such a short period of time, driven by fear and greed of people trying to shift their position and lay India at any price they could (driving the price up to an over-inflated one), did you think of steaming into the India price as very little had changed in that one over? Or were your options limited by the position of your book at the time and the red you had on what the market perceived to be the likely winners at the time? Its easy for me to suggest this as I do a lot of reading about trading but not trading yet but when others are artificially inflating a price with their fear then isn’t that the time for one to be greedy?
You also say that '…but you can't argue with the market' …isn’t that exactly what you should be doing as a trader? If the markets were efficient then you would struggle to make the sums you do.
Sorry for the questions being asked in the manner they are, I’d just like to know if with hindsight you’d do things differently next time round and particularly your thoughts regards the India Price that moved from 1.50 to 2.66 within an over, would you back yourself next time to take that price after what seemed a huge overreaction.
Interested to hear your views, I talk a good game about trading myself but I might be sent away with my tail between my legs when I begin trading for real after Christmas. Good Luck with your challenge btw
cheers JT26
Expect the unexpected, bt, we live in volatile times...
Prek.
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